The “Sumerian” quote got my interest. Two years ago I recorded Area 6:2 and now this movie comes out. The Alien|Paranormal movies are dominating the box office. The Box, Avatar, The Fourth Kind, ABC’s “V” and the likes…are shaping the minds of the Western World preparing for the improper transfer of “hope for the world” to the wicked ones when they are cast down from heaven.
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I will probably go and see this for the sake of historical gleanings…looks creepy.
I need to fix my laptop to be able to hear the sound of the video. It is funny that I wanted to find a place on the board to share that I am just amazed on how the aliens are all over the cartoons! The word ‘alien’ to a child is the most normal thing.
Definately a creepy trailor! I watched and listened to the Area 6:2 teaching again a few months after I had first viewed and got alot more understanding from it. We have been taught so little from the scriptures about the delusion or casting down, I’m still getting understanding about it. Thanks for the inputs on this.
Roberta, that is sad to hear children are being exposed and conditioned. The truth is our deliverer!
Vatican Joins Search For Alien Life
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/10/vatican-looks-to-heavens-_n_352971.html
Interesting they are entertaining this. I have to admit I’m somewhat of a sceptic on this , but no matter I won’t be blown away if I see something like it.
It is a common thread throughout history…popping up in every major culture. I wish it weren’t so.
From what little digging I have done…it appears that Dr. Abigail Tyler was really a doctor in Nome, Alaska and the missing persons reports are posted on an FBI website…as the movie claims. I have not looked into it very deep. I am sure they hype it up in Hollywood.
Scot,
I will go see this movie for the same purpose as you mentioned in the first post! I was actually recording a band in my studio a couple months back and they had talked about this “new scary movie”. They had me view the trailer and the second I saw it I knew what was going on. To them it was just a scary movie, but It opened a great door for me to share and they listened! When I heard the phrase “Ancient Sumerian” in the trailer, I was wow’ed and couldnt wait for it to come out! Its been out almost a week and still havent gone lol. Natzri87 and I are planning to go see it asap. As you said, we like to go see these movies and view them from a biblical mindset, but as usual they all have the hollywood twist! As I’m typing this there was a trailer on A&E for a show called “psychic kids”…. these shows/movies are growing nonstop..
Roberta,
You wrote: The word ‘alien’ to a child is the most normal thing.
It has been ever since ET came out. I took a lot of heat from family and friends because of my objection to that movie. It was the door opening a crack, and now look what has come in.
Shalom Scot.
This was the movie I was telling you about in a way earlier post. I think I mentioned it in a post. I am on the exact same page as Levite83 and you are. We want to go see it for education means.
Levite83,
lets find a good time to go see it. I’m bringing a pillow to hold on to. lol. And lets watch it during day…please? haha.
Levite83 says:
November 12, 2009 at 12:25 am
Scot,
I will go see this movie for the same purpose as you mentioned in the first post! I was actually recording a band in my studio a couple months back and they had talked about this “new scary movie”.
You have a home studio , cool . Are you a musician as well?
Scot’s wife is a singer and composer.
Levite86
It is very hard to find a tv show where there is no alien or necromancy or sorcery. My kids wanted to see this new cartoon called Fanboy and Chumchum. We watched together and right on the first episode they have this wanna be wizard, which Fanboy and Chumchum make fun of and the wizard always gets in trouble but the character is there.
I have explained to my children about who the aliens are and that they are no friends of humans. Even though someone will think they are small for this kind of talk, I also explained about witches , wizards and who is behind all of it. They usually spot this kind of thing from cartoons right way.
Scot,
I may check out the movie too but this is one area where I am deeply skeptical. I honestly do not believe that the Satanic delusion will include aliens. The possibility is fascinating, but in my opinion doubtful.
Natzri.. Lol you funny bro. Will do!
Hi Clearvoice,
Yes I am! I read in another post that you are a musician also!
Hi Roberta,
I agree about tv, the sorcery and deception is nonstop and escalating. Its frustrating to see it so saturated and kids loving it. Most people always have the comment of saying “oh its not real” or “give me a break its just for kids”, but they don’t understand walking in truth is a narrow path and our hearts don’t desire the world or deception. It is the Truth or a Lie..and we know who the father of lies is.
Levite83 says:
November 12, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Natzri.. Lol you funny bro. Will do!
Hi Clearvoice,
Yes I am! I read in another post that you are a musician also!
What part of the country are you in ?
Clearvoice,
Souther CA… East of San diego!
Sorry I wasnt Logged in Clearvoice, That was me.
Southern CA. East of San Diego.
Levite83,
Hey, I’m in LA
Chris,
I just saw the movie and I found it to be VERY disciplined in its approach. The amount of actual footage absolutely made the movie.
One has to ignore the scriptures and the majority of information revealed to other cultures regarding this. Are you actually denying that intelligent beings are not presently in the heavens working craft and deception as we speak? Do you deny that beings created more intelligent and of a higher order than us cannot also do what we presently can do with our limited intellect…build things, ships, craft, manipulate matter, corrupt genes. Honestly Chris I think you are dwelling in a fantasy land that makes it more comfortable for you to continue on your present path. CNN, NASA, FOX, The Vatican, Mexico, Japan, NORAD, Chicago O’hare, London Heathrow, British Gov’t, Australia, USAF, Israeli Defense Forces, Haiti, Edgar Mitchell, Neal Armstrong, The Former Governor of Arizona, and EVERY MAJOR CULTURE since Sumer has this acount but the Southern Baptist Convention doesn’t have position on it and as a result neither do you. LOL…
It is impossible NOT to find it in the scriptures and the extrabiblical support is even more overwhleming.
clearvoice,
I have a studio for recording teachings and my wife sings…
Clearvoice, Aw wow you’re in Memphis.. any mp3s of your music online?
Larry, Thats awesome, you are very close! I was there 2 weeks ago!
Scot, Thanks for short review on the movie, Natrzi and I are going to see it in 1 hour! And awesome about your studio as well!
Levite83,
Where is Natzri? Next time we should meet up and maybe watch another alien movie all of us, lol, or grab something to eat, have a beer or coffee. Or maybe we should come down there, we haven’t been in SD in a while, we love it.
Scot’s wife is a singer …
Hmmm… very interesting , perhaps all of us can do a virtual online recording project. Something to Glorfy God , get the message to return , introduce people to the real Gospel . Something unique and cool sounding , with a message , perhaps Scot could post is on his web site , if we can muster a decent sound.
I don’t have anything current just some songs I wrote and recorded back in 2003 , a mix if rock and blues.
I do have a lot of song Ideas I never put down. It be interesting to do something besides play video games .
Scot’s wife is not only a beautiful and lovely person, but she was blessed with a lovely voice also.
Scot,
Has your wife recorded any CD’s?
Yes,
She has 2 CD’s…they are great.
Where did she do her recording Scot? My wife sings and plays too.
She recorded here in our studio.
What kind of material are you doing ? Covers , original ? M3essianic ?
Scot’s wife does have a beautiful voice. I have one of her cd’s and I enjoy it very much. I finally got a cd player so that I could play it.
Heavy metal…mixed with Kabbalah…I call it Kabbalica…jk
SCOT DRYER REJECTS KABBALAH <———-
Say…can Suzanne do the cookie monster voice while she’s singing?
=8^P
Shabbat Shalom!!
Larry, Natzri is in the same town as me, a block away to be exact lol. That is actually a great idea, I’m pretty sure there is going to be more of these alien movies around lol… coffee and splenda sounds good! We’ll definately have to do that.
Clearvoice that would be really cool! I’ve seen some of those virtual collaborations on youtube! It seems there are many musicians/singers here to do a good one! Do you play guitar and sing?
Scot,
Well we saw the movie…..it scared me a new one lol. Nonstop suspense and intense! Very very ineresting. I’m hoping at one point on this topic that we can discuss different thoughts about different parts of the movie, but I’ll wait until everyone who plans to see it has seen it. The recorded Sumerian audio was Creepy!! Kabbalica hahahaha! I’d love to hear your wife’s singing as well!
take care everyone.
Ty
I have’nt gotten a responce to the post I have on the previous thread on muslims & sharia law? Who threaded that one? any comments?
OT
Cool discussion on Torah on Joel’s Trumpet: http://www.joelstrumpet.com/?p=2302
I play guitar , bass and a little keys , I can sing to. 2nd tenor stuff.
Styles folk rock jazz , acoustic and electric guitar.
I have and older version of cakewalk 9 for multi tracking on the PC.
RE-
Larry says:
November 13, 2009 at 5:20 pm
OT
Wow that makes you wonder what has been in the works since Clinton invaded Bosnia. I personally thought that was a needless War and we were fighting on the wrong side anyway. Point proven after 911, no good deed goes unpunished. Help a Muslim country get attacked.
With an Islamic sympathetic president and an economy in shambles USA is not going to stand in the way of this happening. Especially is we are in a war or we are in a civil war.
Walid Shoebat put is this way , the seven mountains are seven kingdoms, 5 were, one is, one is yet to come and the eight is of the seventh.
1 Egypt
2 Babylon
3 Assyrian
4 Media-Persia
5 Grecia
6 Rome
7 Ottoman
8 Ottoman Revived ( The beast who’s head was wounded)
This fits nicely with Gog and Magog, seems to be happening as we speak.
Here is the truth, Walif is incorrect.
1 Egypt
2 Babylon
3 Assyrian
4 Media-Persia
5 Grecia
6 Rome
7 Umayyad (capital in Damascus, built Dome of Rock, 6th-7th century)
8 Revived Umayyad( The beast who’s head was wounded)
Larry,
I was looking at that website the guy posted on joelstrumpet.com and was able do DEBUNK every position. Did you see the link?
I read through the JT Torah discussion, which link Scot?
Scot might be talking about peteliuz
I will try to find out more about the Umayyad.I thought this video was correct but I don’t see this name in the history of the empires
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lTduTwqtjY
scot,
This one by Duke http://www.pfrs.org/jewish/index.html ? Among others, they blast Brad Scott’s remark, without true repentance, you are not saved (paraphrase). What do you think about that?
clearvoice,
“I play guitar , bass and a little keys …”
Hey, me too, I have Reason and Cubase.
Ok ,
I see a mistake ..,.. 2 3 are reversed.
1 Egypt
2 Assyrian
3 Babylon
4 Media-Persia
5 Grecia
6 Rome
7 Umayyad (capital in Damascus, built Dome of Rock, 6th-7th century)
8 Revived Umayyad( The beast who’s head was wounded)
What is the difference between Ottoman and Umayyad? I thought the Ottoman was controlled by the Caliphate , and that is who as controlled the middle east until 1917.
Splain please
Saw the movie with Levite83 and um…yea. pretty creepy stuff. I feel so bad for the doctor in real life.
clearvoice,
The Islamic Caliphate or Empire started as Arabic dynasties of which the most important called superpower jihadi state of its day was the Umayyad dynasty with its capital in Damascus, Syria. They built the Dome of the Rock which until today Jews call shiqquts or abomination (same Hebrew word used in Daniel). The last dynasties were turkish/ottoman or the so-called Ottoman Empire or Sultanate with leaders called Sultans (their earlier Arab counterparts were called Caliphs). AC is from Mohammad or Arabic line not turkish/ottoman. The Beast resembles a leopard or the Grecian Empire. The Ottoman Empire included countries in Europe that were never part of the Grecian/Umayyad Empire and never converted to Islam. Umayyad like the Grecian 98% contained countries that today are Islamic. The Empire that is revived is the Islamic Caliphate, more specifically its Umayyad form (Revelation says it shall continue a short space). Damascus will be soon leveled, the head that receives the deadly wound.
Larry,
Some would argue that the deadly wound to the head was the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Islam became very insignificant and small. It was nearly wiped out. The arabs were fodder for jokes and comedic songs. They had little to no influence in the world. Then, Oil happened etc.
Explain why that can’t be the deadly wound and the destruction of Damascus is. It seems to me that the first of the choices had the greater impact on the world.
Then of course the head moves to Jerusalem. The Ottoman Empire is ruled out by Daniel 8 & 11 as being a possibility. The Ummayad Empire was much larger than the Ottoman and far more Jihadist. It also came immediately after Rome, when they built the Dome of The Rock.
I pulled up the audio of Scot teaching at Denver, Co. last shabbat. LOL norwegian “jesus” eraser squeegy sound was nice.
How will the wordly enemies re-act when they view Damascus in ruin?
Scot,
I dont know whether this will be part and parcel of the deception or not. From my perspective it just seems silly. I also think it damages your credibility. I know you’ll disagree but I am only acting as a friend, the “wounds of a friend are faithful”. It was the Area 51 stuff that really made me seriously question everything you teach, well and the hatchet job you did on the epistles.
Love ya bro
Roberta,
Speaking of the children, I saw a new ad for a movie called planet 51. It is done with animation and has some un-edifying peronalities represented from what quickly went by in the ad. It may be for the un-adult acting masses out there too.
Chris,
Shabbat Shalom,
This subject is one that really looks out there in our world today. The first response is, “Yeah Right” aliens in space ships. You guys really believe this?
So your response is very understandable. Scot is really putting his neck out with this alien stuff, however, a close examination of Scripture will reveal several passages that lends support to the view.
Let’s really study this stuff out. Don’t tell our wives and our mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and friends. Let’s just pretend that it is just us and see what we can come up with in our own souls. That way we don’t have to worry about looking stupid or having others look at us weird, saying, du, du, du, du, du, du,du du!
There may really really be some truth here!
We all know Scot is weird, he is really out there with his weird beard etc. and his strange Scriptural interpretations. BUT, to me, that has a lot to recommend it. We can go along with the status quo which has done nothing for us for a couple thousand years or we can really try to examine the Scriptures and find the truth.
he is the prince of the power of the air. he is an angel of light. he is a liar, he is the ruler of this world. able to give it to whom he will. Enter Yeshua’s temptation in the wilderness.
Josephus writes of battles between the forces of hasatan and Eloheim over the skies of Yerushalayim. I believe it was during the time Titus destroyed the Temple. Actually it was his troops who were syrian, who refused to listen to his commands when he tried to stop them from burning the Temple.
I don’t know what he saw nor have I been able to find it to quote it but I have read it in the past. Maybe someone can give the cite.
But, the point is, don’t dismiss it so quickly. Don’t give in to the temptation to oppose it so quickly just to be the one on the other side of the argument. Give it some thought and look at the possibilities. Do it quietly within yourself and then when it is all over, stand for what the Scriptures say whether or not it is the popular doctrine.
Scot,
This does no harm to your credibility among the seed of the woman. Perhaps among the erev rav you will find those who will attempt to make you look way way way out there and gone over the deep end and have no credibility at all.
However, among those who keep the commandments of YHVH, and have the testimony of Yeshua, we are watching closely and taking into consideration all things that have been foretold and the evidence that we are seeing in the world around us and weighing truth against error, and facts against fiction, and putting aside the many years of lies that our forefathers have inherited, and we are watching you closely and we will stand firm on His Word whether in your favor or in your opposition.
Be encouraged brother and keep your eyes on Him Who holds your eternal soul in His Hands. and, be careful. and be blessed.
One thing we know, there are 2 worlds going on.
The spiritual doesn’t necessary means invisible. It can become visible.
The human mind is so easy to manipulate…
Want to see how you can be deceived? Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukFEya3301E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNXm736LHY0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b6xrB6eVKU&feature=related
Chris,
I have commited no hatchet job on the epistles. It is religious dogma that has done that. I know it is tough to hear but quite frankly, I am of the persuasion that people don’t believe because they love the wickedness. Like brute beasts ready to be slaughtered they whore after what they know naturally and speak evil of that which they do not know.
You cannot find ONE SINGLE misrepresentaion in any of the stdudies on the epistles. Regarding the “other worldly stuff” as I stated earlier. It is WORLDWIDE common knowledge. Established THROUGHOUT history which you repeatedly ignore.
You know I could really care less about credibility…I am interested in truth. As far as credibilty the ONLY person that questions my credibility WITHOUT ANY providing evidence is you.
With a claim like “hatchet job” show me where? Name it? You can’t. I know how it works having been right where you are. You are left with no scriptural argument so you must appeal to the senses….”Why it just cannot be right, what Scot is teaching. That is not what my ancestors said.” No scripture, just ethereal appeals to tradition.
To be honest I, regularly defend this to teachers all over the world, whether in person or via the phone or internet. The truth is you don’t want to believe because unbelief is more comfortable.
David,
Josephus also tells us that Noah warred against the offspring of the angels for their villiany.
In another quote he connects the “giants” in scripture with the “titans” mentioned by the Greeks…
Jude uses the word tartarus to describe the location where the fallen ones are being held UNTIL the Day of the LORD which is the same place the Titans are in the Greek narrative.
I could go on and on in AND out of the canon…
Chris,
You have know idea how you are being used by the adversary. I pray that it stops.
correction…
no and NOT know
Eph 6:12
(12) For your conflict is not only with flesh and blood, but also with the angels, and with powers, with the rulers of this world of darkness, and with the evil spirits under the heavens.
Aside from the obvious word missing in the Greek “only”, there are some interesting things that we are in conflict with.
1. Flesh
2. Angels (those who have fallen)
3. Powers
4. Rulers of this world of darkness
5. Evil spirits that are UNDER the heavens, or shamayim
Has christianity forgotten that there are “angels” that have fallen, and are now the powers and principalities of the air? Ummm. Shamayim? So the ones UNDER shamayim are not the same that are spoken of in Rev 12.
There are two “plains” of battle here:
Isa 24:21
(21) And it shall come to pass in that day that the LORD shall punish the host of the lofty ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
1. The host of the lofty ones that are on high
2. The kings of the EARTH that are on the EARTH
Compare this verse:
Rev 12:7-12
(7) And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought
(8) But did not prevail, neither was their place found any longer in heaven.
(9) Thus the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world: he was cast out on the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
(10) And I heard a loud voice in heaven saying, Now the deliverance and the power and the kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ have been accomplished; for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before God day and night, is cast down.
(11) And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; and they did not spare themselves even to death.
(12) Therefore rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! For the Devil has come down to you; and his wrath is great, because he knows that his time is short.
The heavens need to be “cleansed” before the earth will be cleansed.
Scot,
Thank you brother.
I hope you know that some of the things I said above were “tongue in cheek.”
I was trying to make points.
When it comes to the opinions of the majority of the world out there, your teachings can seem a bit far out at times. I know you are not catering to those in the world who want to stand in opposition, just for the sake of being in opposition. In the Çhristian world it is much easier to take comfort in the lies of the past than the facts in the present.
I am firmly in your camp with this teaching and I hope others soon see clearly.
Darkness is coming. Our light shines brightest in the darkness. We reflect the light of our Mashiach and it is when the world is the darkest that the light shines brightest. As things wax worse and worse we should see many running to the truth. That means they will be running from traditional Christianity.
Scot,
I have no clue what you mean about me being used by the advesary. Maybe you could explain.
As far as the “hatchet job” in the epistles I have shown you already where you are wrong in your interpretations and I have given up trying any longer. I am not here to argue. I have decided to post my opinions, post once and a while and take a much less active role here. This is a messianic/hebrew roots forum and I dont want to be in the middle of every controversey anymore. It started to really wear me out. You know where I am at.
Blessings,
Chris
Great posts David & Menorahguy…
David,
I know it seems far out BUT light is always far out to those who love darkness…I wish it was just me teaching this but honestly it is intellectual abortion to speak otherwise. This is as substantially documented throughout history as any topic I can think of.
No Chris you have not shown anything to be incorrect. Unfortunately you have only shown that you prefer public opinion and a percieved normalcy over strict and literal exegesis. Having said that, I appreciate your desire to “not argue” as I am sure most on the blog do as well.
Scot,
If your view was based upon strict and literal exegesis there would be no problem. Unfortunately you are forced to explain away the pauline epistles at every turn. You frequently force meanings into the Pauline text that are simply not there. I love truth. If you had revealed the truth and I recognized it as such I’d accept it, you have not and I reject your error. You literally have to tap dance around Colossians, Romans, and Galatians. You get away with it because the folks here share your views for the most part, but in the real world where people are not committed to an HR hermeneutic your views are seen for what they are, laden with dangerous error.
At any rate, I still like you even if you are wrong.
SHalom
Chris
Here’s a little nugget from the Aramaic Peshittah. I know, I know, at seminary they most likely don’t say much about it, or flat out reject it as being valid, but here we go.
Heb 4:9-10
(9) It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the sabbath.
(10) For he who has entered into his rest also has ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
This is from the Lamsa translation of the Aramaic Peshittah. The man who translated this is not a Hebrew Roots teacher, nor do I think he even kept sabbath. Mostly because I think he was under the delusion that somehow sunday became the “new” sabbath.
Take it for what it’s worth, but it isa commandment in the NT for us to keep the sabbath, so, that covers all of the big ten…well sort of.
Shalom,
Dave
Chris,
Collosians, Ephesians, Galatians, Romans ALL Affirm the torah and that violation of it is still sin today. All of us do it. There is NO tap dancing necessary. A PLAIN open reading of the text clearly indicates Paul was PRO torah, feasts, sabbath and so does ALL of his behavior in the 3 decades following the ressurection. You are the one tap dancing and denying what is plainly written. You attribute “weak and beggarly elements” to YHWH’s commandments when the text plainly says it is NOT. I was at a Bible study with people who are having trouble breaking lose of the Baptist stronghold and the host picked up a copy of his bible translation and oddly enough read it and it even confirmed what myself and others have stated about Galatians.
There is no tap dancing you are the one running from the truth. You conveniently refuse to deal with the fact that Paul’s behavior does not match what you try to make his writings say.
Antisemitism has at its core hijacked the semetic nature of the scriptures. To transport the narrative to Europe\Greece\Rome, with its thoughts, culture, customs, idioms, etc…is simply STUPID. It has NOTHING to do with western\greek thought. Even while Paul was in Rome (Romans)…he says that he writes “to those who know the law (torah)” and that was about 2 years or less before he died. The three decades before that he spent building sabbath congreagtions ALL OVER THE WORLD, in every place that he wrote a letter (in canon anyway)…while traveling to Jerusalem to keep the feasts whenever possible.
Chris, It is intellectual abortion to suggest otherwise. I believe it is TOTALLY dishonest for you to continue protecting the lie.
Chris will likely go to Chik Publications where the guy is called an occultist. I personally don’t care what Lamsa says though it is clear he is correct. The Greek manipulated texts don’t even support what Chris claims. Not in a single instance.
Chris,
What kills me is that 99% of the entire SB Denomination is in the dark about where we are prophectically and you defend it to the core. They are in the dark because they love the lie\darkness. They roll around in the churchianity and as a result will be taken aback and caught unaware. The sad thing is, I know many people that I care about that love the intoxication and inticing words which draw unlearned people to the pew. Because she has rejected Abba’s set times He will send them STRONG DELUSION because they love the lie. They are building the church after all, in competion with Y’shua…who said he would do it. The Queen of heaven is going to crumble, unfortunately so will those in her.
BTW Chris,
I get away with it because it is correct. Otherwise one of the several hundred “non-Messianic” people who have signed up and simply read would have pointed out the error. Which verse Chris? There isn’t one. Will you continue to bear false witness? You claim I perverted Galatians, Collosians, etc??? Bring it forward or refrain from the accusation.
Scot,
I have stated what I believe to be true. Most evangelicals are scared to post on this blog because they have seen how I am treated. Your interpretation of Galatians, Ephesians, Colossinas is impossible and is a theological abortion. I wont go to verses because it will become a massive dogpile of your buds on this site. I pointed out your error on previous threads. Go back and re-read the correct interpretations I provided if you are curious.
Have a great week Scot.
Chris,
Did Paul keep the sabbaths? Did Yeshua keep the sabbaths? Of course they did and they also told you to do the same…leading by example. You know better. I have read every post and quite frankly they are without exception, incorrect.
You refuse to deal with additions and omissions from the texts. You also will look at a selection with three added words that are not in the manuscripts and give it a pass. It is dishonest…fifty years ago when people didn’t have the tools we do today it would have been a different story. That is not the case here. This is simply dishonest.
My Baptist friend opened HIS BIBLE (I don’t even know what translation it was), read the commentary on Galatians (as though the text wasn’t as plain as day) and it read EXACTLY like what everyone on here has been telling you. The Expositor’s Bible Commentary and even Catholic Commentaries say the same thing. Collosians & Ephesians couldn’t be clearer either…dishonesty Chris, it is no longer a matter of understanding…it has progressed to dishonesty.
BTW,
I forgot to say…have a great week as well.
Perhaps there is one law for the Greeks and another for the Jews?
The Greeks who are outside of the covenant promises of Abraham , never knew Torah , but yet they knew they were not keeping the basic instructions for morality that was inside them. That was already apparent to them from the state of their sinful nature, their culture and world.
So they hear the good news that Jesus made peace with God for them. And believed this, and at repentance , they receive forgiveness , and in baptism identify with the old nature dying with Christ and being raised up, and finally to receive the power to live unto God by his Spirit.
So they may not keep the letter of the law , being outside the law yet by nature doing the things contained in the law, which is having a good conscience toward the Creator, and walking obediently to him by faith in righteousness as it’s revealed to them.
The law specifically the Sabbath was a covenant sign for Israel. Jesus said he was Lord of the Sabbath as well , so if Christ has received them who don’t keep the exact day right, who are we to Judge. The Original commandments are certainly Good, and as Christians we are supposed to learn the righteousness of the commandment and practice it. But the Covenant of Sinai was broken , with the Death of Yeshua on the tree, The Woman is free to remarry, and who are we to judge whom Christ has received? The new marriage has a new covenant , with new terms and a new way for atonement. To top this off , we haven’t even been married yet. We have hope that this yet future event will include us , that we’ve received the gift of salvation, and are making our garments white in preparation for it. But the fulfillment of the Marriage hasn’t taken place yet.
He became our righteousness , so for us to try to elevate the letter of the law above the Spirit of Messiah is error. The law is written on our hearts inscribed by the finger of God.
The Sabbath was made for man , not man for the Sabbath. However , Religion was made for man , not man for Religion , so if your organization seems to want to establish something contrary to the instructions of Torah , you really have to ask , why? Because they are free to , or they are making a statement? The guide post to righteousness is found in the Torah, and should reflect what is in our hearts. It’s the proof text to weather Messiah is truly in us.
I heard this one thing, which I believe that is a teaching from the Rauck Hakodesh to me ; Conflicting instructions create dimension.
Oh! Now I see how it is.
Baptist have a congregation of brethren.
Followers of Mashiach who keep His Word, have a dogpile of buds.
Well, I guess the dogpile makes good frtilizer because as the baptist become irrelevant, the BUDS BEAR FRUITt.
David,
What ever are you talking about? That doesn’t seem like sound doctrine.
The Doctrine of dogpiles …. go figure.
Scot made an argument at a teaching a couple of months ago, that an Aborigine in the outback of Australia could be saved if he listened to the still small voice and was obedient to it , never having heard the Gospel or Torah. There was a man at this teaching that profoundly disagreed that , no; God first needed to send a preacher, and there was no other name under heaven whereby we must be saved. So the man was upset because he was to be an evangelist and minister to the lost world the message of Jesus and thought this was an offense to his station.
Well if he wasn’t trying to justify himself an his importance, he would have seen the truth of it. But men seek to establish themselves in righteous works rather than obedience of faith and love. This stumbling block to his intellect which was rooted in “law” wasn’t allowing for God’s sovereignty to accomplish the impossible. Which is being saved by grace through faith.
Our baptist brethren have created a similar paradigm in arguing salvation. They have created a new testament version of their law , and worse they have added and subtracted , repackaged and sold a man made doctrine of little use to those who would press on toward the mark of the high calling. It strips away vital parts of Torah and the Gospel message, adds leaven from other gods , and fuses it with Nicolaitian will worship just like so many other greco-roman institutions do.
In some cases I think that the Aborigine has an advantage over us, he doesn’t have to unlearn these Pharisaical doctrines. All he has to do is walk in the light YHVH shows him.
Clearvoice,
Scroll up to the last post by Chris and you will see what I am talking about. He, in a very insulting manner compared us on this blog to a dogpile of buds of Scot.
In short,
I think the movie was great and I recommend going to see it. The actual footage was impressive but not hyper-sensational.
When I saw Scot’s teachings on the coming grand delusion, they only confirmed what I’ve always known, believed, felt, having read a lot of stuff on the subject in the past, stuff that you don’t hear in churches (including babtist seminaries) because of their “unorthodoxy” (just what the adversary wants).
I don’t care how “outrageous” Scot’s teachings may sound, the Bible itself is an “outrageous” book. What I’ve noticed is that usually people guided by their flesh (more “rational” people whose studies almost never sink below their shoulders) see these as ridiculous, damaging to one’s credibility and cannot accept them. By the way, the evidence both biblical and extra-biblical is OVERWHELMING. Scot, keep up the good work bro.
I went to see the movie a few night ago. It was great.. It was scary but don’t let that keep you from going to see it. I recommend it too.
Funny thing is I was riding my horse yesterday and happen to look up and see this bird on a wire well it just happen to be an owl..Eek..Lol
scot,
Regarding that website posted on joel’s trumpet that you were able to debunk, was it the one by Duke http://www.pfrs.org/jewish/index.html ? Among other things, they blast Brad Scott’s remark, without true repentance, you are not saved (paraphrase). What are your thoughts on that?
Scot,
We have’nt seen the movie yet, what do you mean ” but not hypersensational ” ?
Larry,
Salvation produces true repentance. The grace of YWHH grants us the capability to return to his instructions. Yes, that was the site. The guy is WAY OFF and easy to disprove. If one is willing to look at what the Greek actually says. In Hebrews he didn’t even pick up on the THREE additions of the word “covenant” in the English translations.
Duncan,
I appreciated the disciplined approach.
Scot,
Now you accuse me of being dishonest. That is just wrong. I never accussed you of lying but rather of lacking understanding. If you want to call me a liar go ahead but you should know better. When I see truth I embrace it. I have nothing to lose. You are flat wrong. It is disappointing that you have resorted to an attack upon my character.
That is what I thought and hoped you meant.
Did Suzanne go see it, too?
Well My two cents,
I’m not into UFO’s and things of that nature because , I’ve never had that experience. I have experienced the presence of Adoni, Elohim in a powerful way. I have experienced the presence of something unclean I dare no say what it was. I’ve seen the Glow of YHVH on the faces of men, and I’ve seen men’s faces contorted with evil , fain humility and darkness. Literally disfigured faces of men manifesting demons.
SO I know that we respond to spiritual forces and can see their effect on men, but for the moment are invisible, concealed from our view. The question is why are they invisible , why are they concealed ?
I do not know this answer,other than God has concealed himself and the lessor Elohim for our protection. I know that these forces are in conflict . Some angles are there to minister righteousness , others are there to temp us to disobedience.
Both are sent by the Father, the choice is left to us which one we follow. We are supposed to be prepared to battle the forces of darkness by putting on the whole armor of God. WE are supposed to walk in the light of his word and be lead of his spirit, so when the deceiver comes either in body or out of body , we will know how to overcome. Submit to Abba , resist the Devil , and cause him to flee by our obedience and faith in the Word of God.
So while I don’t intrude into things I have not yet seen , I don’t find fault with Scot for teaching them . He’s right to the effect they are here, to the degree I do not know. SO if I see it, may I know the voice of the Good Shepherd well enough to not be deceived, and to remember the commandments and not bend my knee to any other god but the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob.
Wow! Just like we have talked about in recent posts, the deception is being set up, for the unlearned. BTW…Do any, I mean any of you live near Houston? Scot, we were gonna meet, but things got complicated for us both, I still need that backup! Let me know. dberszerker@yahoo.com
One more thing. Scot teaches either truths, lies or a mix. In either case, we should ALL be able to distinguish the truths and/or the lies ourselves. We shouldn’t follow Scot Dryer, Brad Scott, babtist pastors or other teachers, but that still small voice which of course never contradicts the written Word and that is able to guide us even when we read extra-biblical sources or watch ufo/alien movies, that voice that still teaches and instructs today or gives Torah.
Agreed Larry,
We have One Builder, the Chief Cornerstone, of whose house ( family ) we all yield ourselves in and get built together.
Chris,
I wish it wan’t the case but even on this very post you are skirting around the issues you are not willing to incorporate into your life. I care deeply about you brother, that is why I sound tough on you…I believe your refusal to admit, omissions & additons which CLEARLY change the surface level (english) meaning of the text is dishonest.
Deborah,
As far as the owl goes…that is funny.
Clear,
The reason that they are USUALLY unseen is because the works of wickedness is best done under the cover of darkness\erev. Another reason they are hidden is because it is not quite time for the apocalypse, it means to remove from hiding or enveiling.
Berzerk,
We will be in Dallas in January…
I just got Adobe After Effects and our media produciton is going to step it up a notch. The website will be undergoing changes tomorrow. A new trimmed down look.
Hey Scott Off Topic but, do you know how to an animation movie using gimp ?
Scot. I would love you to record simple audio messages .mp3 kind.
I will be converting our teachings to audio as well…soon.
it is really funny read all your jewish fantasy . knowing that the jews copy everything from the sumerian and everything after the extermination of the black head people (sumerian) by the semitic tribes (jews). are just fantasy and lies