I had a thought that fulfilling the law , is not equivalent to ignoring it. Seems like a redundant thing to say on this site, but something is warning me that in the presence of the Almighty , keeping those statutes and ordinances will be really important. We are supposed to learn righteousness once we are justified. We move from Justification to Sanctification by learning Torah. Hearing ( Understanding) and Doing the will of the Father, acting by faith in doing the will of YHVH.

Our infractions are forgiven , yes that is true, but the commandments are still for instruction in righteousness. Not to pick on our brothers who don’t feel Torah is needed any longer, but free willing it , flying by the seat of their pants , haplessly walking in darkness , will not be helpful to them in the presence of Adoni Elohim.

True Messiah is our righteousness , but we don’t continue in Sin. At some point we have to grow up and hear and do the will of the Father. They are not mutually exclusive.

Submitting to mans ordinances is error , and we should not be ashamed for resisting those that would add to the Torah either.

These scriptures were brought to my mind today , as I meditated on the Word.

Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back [part] of the price of the land?

Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

Act 5:5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

These scriptures certianly bring about a fearful reality, in the presence of the Ruak Hakodesh. This is no doubt after the ascension of Messiah.

Exd 23:20 ¶ Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

Exd 23:21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name [is] in him.

I’m being impressed upon , that when the Ruak Hakodesh is poured out in this great measure in the latter rain , many will not be able to bear it.

That many people need to learn the fear of YHVH. And they need to be sanctified by the Word, so they don’t do anything like what happened here.

That the Torah is for Sanctification for the Kings and Priest of YHVH.

I believe , It’s going to be a determining factor in separation of the wheat and the tares. As the scriptures say without Holiness , no man shall see YHVH.

So pressing into the kingdom will require some changes in our thoughts, and the preparation for the inheritance is found in the instructions of the Word.

Hey guys,

is the Star of David and the “christian fish” of pagan origin?

I do not believe the Fish symbol is pagan ,

I believe it is a sign of the House of Joseph!

Ephraim & Manasseh ‘s blessing by Israel , the crossing of the hands on top of the “lads” heads, doesn’t make a cross , It’s makes a fish symbol from the heart of Jacob.

Gen 48:16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.

The Hebrew word for “let them grow” in the blessings of Ephraim and Manasseh is the word ” dagah דגה” , which in it’s etymology contains the root “dag” meaning wonderfully prolific and also means fish. ( source Brad Scot/ blue letter)

The Fish that are being fished back into the kingdom JER 16:16.

Jer 16:16 ¶ Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall fish them;

When Yeshua says “Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men” he is declaring this good news of the kingdom. He was only sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel. Jeezrel the planting of the God ( Hosea 1.)

Mat 4:19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.

Just like many original motifs used in scripture are pure in their original intent that have been sullied with some pagan perversion , such as “dagon worship” and the “priest of Dagon.” It’s typical for man to pervert and mix the good and the evil. The wheat do grow with the Tares. Yeshua sowed the good seed, Hasatan come right along and sows Tares. So we can’t throw the baby out with the bath water, or separate the Wheat from the tares until the time of the Harvest.

The kingdom of heaven is like a net that gathered the good fish and the bad fish into vessels, and cast the bad fish away.

It also may tie into the sign of the prophet Jonah. Which is the sign , THE ENSIGN to the NATIONS.

Words are symbols for sounds that represent ideas. So in that regard they are used to convey a higher meaning. The words themselves don’t receive any worship , they are just a symbolic transfer of thought.

Each tribe had an emblem or banner , which seems to be a part of Hebrew culture. The blessings of Jacob on the twelve tribes carried a lot of imagery concerning their destiny in the latter days. The fact is symbols like words are very powerful communication tools.

Why did Moses raise a standard with a brazen snake? The son of man , said he would be raised up from the earth in a like manner.

http://www.archaeology.org.il/newsticker.asp?id=24

In this 3rd Century Church there is a mosaic on the floor and two fish are displayed.

From my earlier post , I have reason to believe the 2 fish are Ephraim and Manasseh . Perhaps the two fish , five loves in the twelve baskets have some symbolic meaning as well. While that is speculative , there is certainly a theme that the word is conveying regarding fishers of men and the cast off house of Joseph which of course includes Joseph’s sons.