How do we keep the Shabbat and the Moedim? (By David)
Many of our brothers and sisters in Yeshua are in situations in their lives that make obedience to the appointed times of YHVH very difficult. Such as, married to an unbeliever or living in a small town or in the country where there are few other Torah observant followers of Yeshua, or no organized assemblies. Or perhaps, all of the above or many other situations which could cause problems. What is the minimum acceptable observance activity? This may be poorly put but I think you follow what I am saying. Many brothers and sisters are under attack over these issues.
09 October 2009
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Menorahguy,
RIGHT ON! I agree, “heretic” is tossed around more than tossed salad in a fancy restaurant lol. That’s why I hate the concept of denominations. Yeshua didn’t come to build walls within the body. He came to tear down religion and bring us back to the heart of Torah and away from relgious none-sense.
-Natzri87
Psalm 119:1-”Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the Torah of Yahweh.”
Natri, I hate to tell you, but you even used the word heritic about three times in a recent post
Here’s an example.
One believes that Messiah is 100% God.
Another believes that He was only the Words of God, and not God.
Yet another believes he is a tzedek, or righteous one, but isn’t God.
However, ALL believe that Yeshua paid the price for their whoredoms.
And All believe that YHVH is the one who loved the World that he gave his only begotten son.
Then who is the heritic?
The NT is consistant in saying things like “God, and his Messiah”, or “God, and our lord Yeshua”. The fact is, the nature of the messiah is a complete mystery. We will not fully understand it yet. So who are we to ever call anyone a heritic on their view of the messiah? Finger pointing leads to more fingers pointing back in your direction.
Yes…and the best way to reply…is
“as for the way they call heresy, I believe ALL that is written in the law and the prophets”
Nobody in the scriptures apart from Messiah (the author) equates their writings with the stone tablets including Paul though he DOES NOT conflict with torah, period. Christendom does though and so does Judaism.
Scot,
Paul taught that the laws purpose is to reveal sin and point us to Christ. He taught that we are not to strive to keep the law but to live a life led by the Spirit. Brother that is not Torah observance.
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Flannel graph is awesome! LOL
That was well put menorahguy, I like your typical Sunday morning! Sounds like mine!
Chris,
I went back and reread your comment at 6:49 pm.
“My faith is a historic faith that has a connection with the Apostles, John, Paul, and Peter. Your “new teaching†is not new at all and would be completely rejected by Paul and the rest of the apostolic witnesses. You think you have found a new path, but it is an old path, and it leads away from Christ and into the bondage of judaizers. I pray that God delivers you!”
I stand by what I posted…although, I do apologize if you were having a private conversation. I came in late, and posted after I read your post.
Shelemiyah
Shelemiayah how you equate a valid scripture withm the invalid practice of Judaizing is completely beyond me but if it floats your boat.
Chris,
OK Chris, I read through the comments made last night and found where you said you were talking about just a few in Hebrew Roots. So OK, I can agree with that.
So, I forgive you.
But if it ever happens again its d-i-v-o-r-c-e COURT for us buddy. hahahaha
methinks we are polarized.
OFF TOPIC, Maybe a new topic.
What is Eddie is saying when he says we must go to Israel? Did anyone heard his messages about this subject?
I can imagine that scenary where the whole world become a dangerous place for Yahweh’s believers that the only safe place to worship would be Israel, but will they let people just come in a live there? I am really confused about it.
Scot, can you help me understand or give your take on it?
Roberta,
Israel has a very strict immigration policy (unlike the US). If you are Jewish (by heritage) it is fairly easy to become a naturalized Israeli citizen. But if you are a Christian or a Messianic believer it is almost impossible to become a citizen. Israel discriminates strictly against anyone who accepts Jesus as Messiah.
Error…plain and simple. I was under the impression that he has stopped that. The answer is NO they will not just let people go there and even the day before Messiah gets here Jerusalem is “sodom & egypt” a wicked harlot of a city. Is it possible you were listening to an old recording? it is as unbalanced and unfounded as ANYTHING I have heard coming out of Messianic believers. In August, in Chicago he said nothing of the sort. The previous year I publicly spoke against it vociferously hours after Joel Bell & Eddie were extracting money out of people trying to “get them to the land.” Of course nothing has become of it. Unless Abba says GO THERE, stay planted. We read in Jasher that the zealous “Ephramites” went into the land early and of their own agency and got mowed over by the Philistines…same will happen in the future.
Honestly, these people are manipulating people and trying to create a following. They have an ENTIRELY unbalanced eschatalogical view, mostly looking at Prince Charles, Europe or a jew from the Tribe of Dan as the AC and are decieved in that regard.
If I find that He is still teaching it I will offer yet another public rebuke…it is grievous error and out of all the people who laid down their silver to “sign up to go to the land” I don’t know a any that have. I do know of a few that have and found it to be error, though I am sure that is not always the case.
Again,
Chris and I agree. I am going to go eat worms.
Chris said:
“Paul taught that the laws purpose is to reveal sin and point us to Christ. He taught that we are not to strive to keep the law but to live a life led by the Spirit. Brother that is not Torah observance.”
The first sentence is true and the second sentence is Chris. The law is spiritual and if we are in him we seek to obey his laws, not man’s. We do so as the spirit of Messiah empowers us…loving YHWH first and man as a result of the prior.
What is clear is that the religion of Christendom is foreign to the scriptures. Having said that, YHWH is gracious when we are walking in the light that we have. I am fully persuaded that his people are all throughout the relgion.
Scot,
Thank you so much. I thought it was very strange teaching because it does not align with the scriptures where God said He will do the job of gathering people and put them in the land. In any instance He said for us to do anything. I am a born-Brazilian and I know the process to become an American citizen. You can’t just get in a plane and go live in a another country, it doesn’t make any sense.
I noticed that the people (questions and answers) were getting scared about the idea that if they did not leave the US something bad would happened to them. Very strange…
The audio is from Way To Zion, don’t remember the date.
Again, thank you.
Roberta,
Eddie is talking about the prophesied regathering of the Children of Israel, the Ten Tribes of the Northern Kingdom to the Land of Israel. There are many many Scriptures that speak of this regathering.
There are various interpretations of how and when this is going to happen. Eddie and Monte Judah teach that it is going to be a physical exodus patterned after the first exodus supported by such Scriptures as Jeremiah 16:14, “Therefore, says YHVH, the day will come when people will no longer swear, ‘As YHVH lives, who brought the people of Isra’el out of the land of Egypt,’ but, ‘As YHVH lives, who brought the people of Isra’el out of the land to the north and out of all the countries where he drove them’: For I will bring them back to their own land, which I gave to their ancestors.”
Other opinions are that this is speaking of what is called the rapture. I prefer to call it the catching away as scripture calls it or the resurrection but some believe this is the ultimate fulfillment of the Jeremiah prophecy and other prophecies.
When this takes place Roberta, Regardless of who is right about how it will happen, it will make no difference what the immigration policy of the secular government now in the land is. YHVH will be doing the work. Secular governments are under the ultimate control of YHVH.
Scot,
Your answer to Roberta is absolutely dead on brother. In my reply I tried to show the scriptural foundation for the return of Israel, but that whole Joel Bell thing is a fake and a fraud. I confronted Eddie myself to his face at the conference in Oregon when all this came out. He told me I have a log in my eye. He has now backed off of the World Wide Zionism thing but I am not sure if he has completely gave up the idea of returning to the land.
I also have a friend who has been sucked in by this and he is still planning to go this fall. He and I have nearly lost fellowship over the issue. He said that I was satan trying to stand in the way of the plan of YHVH.
I don’t want to give his name but pray for him and his wife. He is in his 70′s and is very sickly. I am afraid he is going to drag his wife over there after selling their home and then die and leave her stranded in a strange land with no means of support. I know YHVH will keep her but it still isn’t a good situation.
David,
I know what group you are talking about. I have also encouraged the group NOT to go.
David,
The LORD will gather, this is right. . But , as Eddie said, that when the Zion becames a official nation it does mean it is a sign for me and you to pack our bags and get in a plane or start walking to Israel.
There will be no nation called Zion.
At Yom Teruah after the great tribulation (the righteous are kept through) will the righteous become incorruptible and be with Adonai to enter the Land?
Roberta,
In my opinion Eddie is in error. As Scot said, there will be no nation called Zion. We will go home when YHVH says we will go home. Packing bags and walking is not scriptural. It is true that the first exodus was a walking out but scripture tells us that YHVH will gather us. If there is any walking involved he will tell us when the time comes. We will not need Eddie to tell us.
David,
I agree with you as well, how bizarre, I agree with David and Scot simultaneously, look out rapture!
Hey David,
I’ve enjoyed learning on this thread, my wife and I desire the Light of His Word to grow brighter to draw others to Him.
My sentence structures and other grammer practices are still growing too. Funny one of my favorite subjects from school is vocabulary. Oh well, thanks for the thread and patience towards me.
Duncan,
Your comments are a delight and you are always a blessing to hear from. When you get that grammar thing down brother I would appreciate it if you would help me out. That was my most dreaded subject and I know it shows.
Your doing well, and we’ll keep growing!
Chris,
you said:
“I believe the law was fulfilled and all of its requirement met in Christ Jesus. The law we are to keep is the law of love, the commandments of Christ, the New Covenant instructions.”
First, the Torah was NEVER meant for salvation. only Rabbinical Jews and other small sects of judaism believe that the Torah brings salvation. To most Jews it is obvious that the Torah doesn’t bring Salvation to us. It is meant to Express it.
You said:
“The law we are to keep is the law of love, the commandments of Christ, the New Covenant instructions.”"
The commandments of Christ= The heart of the Torah.
The New Covenant Instructions= Torah + Prophets and writings.
It all goes back to the main foundation brother. Torah.
If it wasn’t based on Yahweh’s Absolutes, then by Torah standards EVERYONE including Yeshua would have been a false teacher/prophet. Laws of man that are made without Yahweh’s Absolutes= “Make it up as you go”. Yeshua and the apostles didn’t make up a new set of rules called “the New Testament Instructions”. The NT didn’t even exist when they said what they said. =)
-Natzri87
Chris,
I wonder if maybe that could be a sign? Watch the Sky, Watch the News, something dreadful must be happening!!!! Or maybe something good!!!!! LOL
Chris and Natzri,
We are soooooooo close to agreement brothers.
Chris is right, The Law was fulfilled and all its requirements met in Yeshua.
The Law we are to keep is the Law of Love, the commandments of Messiah, the New Covenant instructions.
Natzri, you are also correct, The commandments of Messiah are the heart of the Torah.
Yeshua fulfilled the Torah. He filled it up with meaning and He kept all Its requirements. But, He did it as an example to us to show us how we are to live our lives in Him.
He first gave them to us through Moshe in the wilderness, then He came in the flesh as Torah in the flesh to more or less draw us a picture of how we were to live.
The Law is a law of love. Yeshua’s law of love. There is not a single commandment that does not have its fulfillment based in love for either Eloheim or our neighbor.
Then Yeshua paid the penalty for our not doing it as He instructed and showed us how so through His grace we are forgiven for out failure to keep Torah which is the definition of sin.
But, we are not to kill the schoolmaster. We are not to graduate and throw away all we learned. We are to put it into practice. You will say why if Yeshua already did it. Well, because we love Him and we wish to please Him and we want to be obedient to Him and we want to be as much like our Savior that we possibly can be. It is true that His mercy extends to us in all our failures to fulfill it perfectly as He did but that is no excuse to not try.
It amazes me how folks can make keeping the Torah an awful sinful thing and breaking it an acceptable religious practice.
David,
I actually dont believe that keeping Torah is sinful. I think the problem is trying to attain one’s own righteousness via Torah observance. If a Jew receives Christ and chooses to keep Torah I see no problem with that, they are remaining culturally Jewish and they have received the righteousness of Christ. But for a gentile believer it is different. For too many Gentiles Torah observance would become a means of righteousness rather than Christ. This is what Paul warns against in his epistles.
People ask me,
Why do you wear tzitzit? I say because Torah tells me to in Numbers 15:37-41. They say, “You don’t have to do that. That is keeping the Law (which are the commandments of Eloheim) If you do that you will go to hell because if you keep one then you will have to keep them all.”
Great reasoning huh?
If you keep the commandments you will go to hell.
If I fail to keep the commandments I will go to (pie in the sky) heaven.
If you wear tzitzit you are legalistic and it will send you straight to hell.
If I obey my father and mother I am a good Christian and I will go to heaven.
If you keep Sabbath you are denying Christ.
If I go to sunday school I am a nice little boy or girl.
If you celebrate Sukkot you are a stupid judaizing old Jew.
If I keep christmas I am loving baby Jesus and santa will come an give me lots of expensive play things that my daddy will have to pay for on his credit card and then file bankruptcy and not pay the bill but thats ok because that is keeping the law.
GO FIGURE!
David
You can do whatever you want, but if you obey the law you will for sure spend the eternity in hell. It doesn’t even make sense. LOL
The thing is that if we accept that we should obey literally it would makes life too difficult! Once I heard someone saying: “God doesn’t want sacrifice (another misunderstood verse, sacrifice as suffering)”
Roberta,
Who said this “You can do whatever you want, but if you obey the law you will for sure spend the eternity in hell.” Because I think they are wrong, just like I think Torah observance can be wrong.
Chris
Which part of the Torah would make Christians think that?
Roberta,
I didnt blame it on Torah. The Torah is the Word of God, I would not blame Torah for how it is used. I am not anti-torah, I am anti-sanctification by means of the letter, and so was Paul.
Because some Christians think that attending service and working on church events makes them more holy than others. My point is that it depends on the condition of the heart of the individual and that it is between the person and his Creator.
Serving the Lord in a local church can bring great pleasure to God and can bring Him great honor and glory.
Chris,
I believe that is grasping for straws brother. Genealogy has nothing to do with the plan of salvation, nor in sanctification. There is no Jew nor Gentile, bond nor free. We are all grafted into the same Isra’el with the same covenant with the same Savior, one Body, one Baptizm.
Besides, how in the world does anyone know if they are a Jew. After 2000 years of assimilation and intermarriage is there a real Jew left? And if there is, what about the other Tribes of Israel? Is it OK with you if they keep Torah? If so, where to we go find them so we can let them know that the Baptists say it is OK if they keep Torah?
I believe Judah is in the Land today, but I could not identify one of them for you. I believe for the most part none of them know themselves except for maybe a very small handful who have had detailed records kept since 70 a.d.
Only Eloheim knows for sure who is a Jew and who is ten tribes and who is a gentile etc.
Torah is for all.
David,
It is not grasping for straws, it is a common view and one held by the apostles. But I digress. You and I disagree today, and we’ll likely disagree tomorrow. I accept you as you are, I love you even though I dont share your convictions. I love you because we love the same Savior who was sent to save both of our sinful rear ends!
Chris,
Same here Chris. I don’t want to go quite as far as you and say I will disagree with you tomorrow because YHVH can turn that around. As for sinful rearends, once again today we do agree.
Chris said:
“Serving the Lord in a local church can bring great pleasure to God and can bring Him great honor and glory.”
…..
IF a person doesn’t think they are better than others and have their hearts in it. The same with the Torah -apparently outward- observances.
OFF TOPIC
Scot, is Profound Prophecy on facebook?
I don’t understand why we cannot see this like the muslims see shereah law in the quaron.
This is a national thing, While I am still an american in the flesh. I am an Israeli in the Spirit and flesh. Torah is His Constitution, His instructions for His people to live by.
If we are His people we really need to start acting like a family, and living Torah.
Have you ever noticed how oriental and hispanic folks survive in our system? They send over a few “anchors”, and build up from there till they establish a foothold then expand until they control a section of the community. They are just biding their time, and steadily taking territory.
It will be a bloodless revolution. The day is coming when they will control a large chunk of our country and tell us “what are you going to do? We have it now”.
Early in Acts the fledgling Ecclessia had to live communally.
The deceiver has certainly done a number on us. The destruction of the family in our nation is almost complete. It seems to me our culture has also crept into our understanding of His “Instructions for living”.
Mike
My wife made a page for us on facebook. I seldom visit it.
Chris,
I realize that. It just struck me how one language will take from another, change the meaning, yet refer one back to the original word.
My note above is on the wrong thread…I lost my place. Sorry again.
I saw you there and added as a friend. I thought, with almost 2000 friends they would not mind add one more
Chris
A Christian, especially a Christian should never ever ever ever in his life be anti-semitic. Even if they say blasphemies about Yeshua. After I knew that about Luther I never wanted to know anything else about him. I call his movement a “almost victory”.
Roberta,
Just to clarify I in no way condone anti-semitism by anyone, Luther included. I think Luther made some valid theological contributions and I will not reject his brilliant theological work because of his kookie and wrong headed view of the Jews. He was a sinner just like the rest of us, I will not judge him. His movement was certainly important and on some levels was a profound victory. Without the remormation we would all be Catholics, or we’d be burned at the stake.
Glad to have you guys as friends…fuzzy.
My dad has always called our Veternerian ” Fuzzy ” since I was a youngster, probably because of his beard. good name! friend
I had a thought … really!
Milk is grace and mercy , repentance and receiving the gift of salvation, being Baptized , recieving the Holy Spirit.
Meat is to do the will of the father… learn Torah, walk in the light of it.
Spirit and Truth
Hey! You guys lost me with this fuzzy stuff. Did I miss something or is it an inside joke?
Off to elshaddai, will let you guys know about Rick something from The Well congregation.
Scot/David: It is so fun to chat about everything with all these nice people
What about opening a topic for Fellowship and then when we can talk about stuff?
David,
Scot was saying he enjoyed having you guys as friends… fuzzy.
So, I think he was signing off as ” fuzzy “. He might have been just fuzzy from his web-site over-hauling.
Duncan,
Thanks brother.
I think he is just fuzzy from his chin. lol.
BTW, Bonnie said nothing was formally recorded but a lot of different people took pictures that may be posted later. I know that is not what you are looking for. Maybe next year. This was her first attempt at such a large conference type Sukkot so next year will probably be better.
There is a rumor that I may be one of the minor speakers. Maybe one opportunity. Who knows, we may all be in the Kingdom by then.
David,
Thanks for the update about that, it would be nice to be there in person. It gladdens me to hear of the great turn-up and blessings in full in Yahshua for your opportunity.
Yeah, I never heard a responce from WB about the amount of Tikvah’s coat. There are some good youtube videos of Long-haired taco dogs.
David,
I have a question : when you were talking about next year’s Sukkot and “There is a rumor that I (you)may be one of the minor speakers (Cogratulations!!!)… Maybe one opportunity. Who knows, we may all be in the Kingdom by then”. I’d like to know what that means “we may all be in the Kingdom by then”?
I am lucky with larry, he uses to explains almost everything I don’t understand, but this time he couldn’t either.
Thank you in advance,
serafima
Serafima,
I meant that I believe the time is close at hand. Even though we are technically in the Kingdom now, because the Kingdom is within us, I believe the the Millennium is right upon us and we may be engaged in other activities by this time next year that are Kingdom related because the tribulation may begin.
I am not a date setter. I just believe it to be that near.
As for the opportunity to speak, I only want to step through doors that YHVH opens for me. If that is speaking then I want to do that. But, like I said, if I do it will be only a very minor opportunity because I have no reputation as a speaker. I do not wish to speak for the sake of being a speaker or for making some kind of a name for myself but if YHVH has a message for me to give, I wish to be obedient.
Thank you very much David,
I think you can be a very good speaker. I am a humble person also, but that doesn’t help us to grow. You should know that larry and my self appreciate you very much (and I am sure that all our brothers from this blog appreciate you and love you) , your posts are wonderful, you are passionate for YHVH and He will give you power and abilities to be a good speaker also.
Yes, I think like you that we live very exciting times and the Tribulations can start any time from now. We live a life with YHVH now and we follow Him now and we love Him now and that is the Kingdom He promised to us but all of us wait for the Kingdom of the Millenium.
Blessings brother,
serafima
The HOLY ONE doesn’t even recognize the terms Christianity( if we want to call ourselves a christian then we better get it right then(otherwise we slander his NAME and I sure do not want to be guilty of that) and he deffinately does not recognize denominations (they only divide him )… but .what he does recognizes is ISRAEL and his LAWS (10 commandments) and his STATUTES (HIGH HOLIDAYS)…we become ISRAEL by being grafted into the ONE OLIVE TREE where the roots are HOLY (JESUS)….how do we become grafted in the OLIVE TREE…we believe in the MESSIAH and mimic him …and DROP OUR PAGAN TRADITIONS…and learn the HOUSE RULES (10 commandments are followed when we resist temptations and walk in LOVE and therefore spares us from making a checklist and following them which will not be good enough)….and we learn his HIGH HOLIDAYS( These FEASTS DAYS CAME FROM THE FATHER AND NOT MAN( people will say but it was the people of Israel who came up with them.. but they did not.. it was the FATHER who gave them to man)…why not celebrate them.. they ALL tell a story of the MESSIAH… and besides he gave them to us so his children wouldn’t feel left out as the children of darkness celebrate their TRADITIONS of false hope(x-mas..easter..halloween e.t.c)…at least his is PURE AND HOLY…when you hear these feasts including the sabbath are a shadow of things to come it means that they tell a story to remind us of what is coming how do they remind us ..by continuing on in keeping the feasts and sabbath, each time we do keep it we remember what is going to come)…ALSO Jesus kept the feasts (John 7:2-11) AND Paul kept the feasts after Jesus died and resurrected and ascended (Acts 18:20-21)…..WHEN we walk in the SPIRIT of LOVE ..it is easier to obey the House rules( 10 commandments) by resisting our temptations…isn”t that obeying the law…we must fight off our temptations with the LAW …like the MESSIAH did in the wilderness. AFTER WE COME TO KNOW JESUS WE CAN’T CONTINUE ON IN SIN..WE HAVE TO CHASTISE OUR BODIES (that sounds like alot of work to do.. but with his SPIRIT it is POSSIBLE ..but why is the churches teaching that we don’t have to work and only believe..that is too easy and JESUS SAYS IT WILL BE HARD.. who do you want to believe..YOUR SALVATION IS DEPENDING ON WHO YOU RATHER OBEY AND BELIEVE.) ..EVERYBODY FORGETS THIS SCRIPTURE…JAMES 2:26.. for as the body with out the spirit is dead so too Faith WITHOUT WORKS is DEAD…..when we are accomplishing the STEPS THAT HE HAS PLACED FOR US IN HIS WORD (getting to know and believing who the messiah is and mimicking him and dropping our pagan traditions and learning his house rules by chastening our bodies for him when temptations do come our way and celebrating pure high holiday feast days also known as DIVINE APPOINTMENTS) we fulfill deuteronomy 32:21…(make his own people jealous by obeying their FATHER better then they did …and believing in their MESSIAH whom they killed). (How else are we going to bring them back to the FATHER.. BY showing them how its done amen )….to be quite honest with you …all denominations have some truth that will get them into the coming KINGDOM (the little truths they have all differ from each other) ..but the thing is ALL denominations sow lies with the truth making a deadly POISON DRINK ..and prevents you from entering the coming KINGDOM …THE MESSIAH taught that a kingdom that divides it self will not stand.. thats what all these denominations are doing..they say its this way or its that way …denomination equals division (this should be everybody’ clue that there is some sort of CONFUSION) …..if all these Denominations could just drop all their LIES and come together to share with each other all the different little pieces of truth that they have …then let me tell you …..THE MESSIAH WOULD HAVE SOME BRIDE….if you follow the laws of love found in matthew 22:37-39….you will find the Messiah quoted deuteronomy 6:4-5 and or deuteronomy 10:12 and deuteronomy 10:19 and or leviticus 19:18…when dealing with the 2 GREATEST commands…the messiah also quoted deuteronmy 10:13 in matthew 19:17……so how can anyone say the LAW is nailed to the cross and yet still obey 2 commandments from the LAW…that makes these people HYPOCRITES..(the only law nailed to the cross was the MOSAIC LAW (eye for an eye) and the PRIESTLY ORDINANCES(sacrifices and what not) BUT THE FATHER` LAWS ARE ETERNAL (10 commandments) they seal us if they are obeyed AMEN…and if you read the gospels really slowly and read revelations you will see multiple times where Jesus said to keep the commandments. and in revelations 12:17 it says ..and the dragon was enraged with the woman and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring who KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST. AMEN ….The MESSIAH said this, ‘Enter by the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction and there are many who go in by it, because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way that leads to life and there are few who find it.”…well ask yourself.. what is so difficult about the path to life if all we have to do is believe the law is nailed to the cross and just believe that there was a MESSIAH.. that sounds so EASY to do and it looks like MANY believe that ..and JUST because it is EASY to do AND MANY are believing it…then obviously it isn’t the PATH TO LIFE ….BECAUSE the MESSIAH SAYS the path to life is a DIFFICULT one and FEW find it……these are the ones whom will hear the dreaded words from the MESSIAH….DEPART FROM ME YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS…..practice what …lawlessness …isn’t lawlessness the same as NO LAW….doesn’t that describe THE LAW NAILED TO THE CROSS……so look at who the MESSIAH says this too ….to the ones who cast out demons in his name and prophesied in his name ..and performed miracles in his name…wow… they did all this but yet they were told to depart from him …why…because they thought the law was nailed to the cross…The messiah said those who put their hand to the plow and looks back is not worthy to be my disciple(that sounds like work doesn’t it… modern christianity says it is only faith that will get us to heaven and not works..but jesus said plow ..which equals work doesn’t it ..we have to listen to the MESSIAH more than anything that was why he was sent to begin with to TEACH and die for our past sins)….matthew 7:24-27 says this…Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock. “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And GREAT was its FALL.†…in matthew 24:4-5 ..says And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.For many shall come in my name, saying, I am the Christ; and shall deceive many…well how many people actually said they were the Christ and deceived many …some said they were him but who were they fooling ..they fooled some but not many …..so obviously he was speaking about all these people in different denominations who say that he is the Christ. and they come in HIS name and still deceive many…(DENOMINATIONS.)….please come out of BABYLON(confusion)…hebrews teaches there is only ONE MEDIATOR …AND ONE HIGH PRIEST ( JESUS NOT PAUL OR MARY OR PRIESTS OR PASTORS OR ANYONE WHO SAYS DIFFERENT ..JUST JESUS ) quit saying but PAUL said this or PAUL said that ..i even heard ..BUT PAUL was sent to the gentiles so we have to listen to him from now on..ask yourself DID PAUL DIE FOR YOUR SINS… i never said to quit reading PAULS LETTERS.. but i am saying to quit acting like he is the MESSIAH..and people praying to MARY ..she is only human… look in mark 3:31-35…Then his mother and his brothers came; and standing outside, they sent to him and called him. 32 crowd was sitting around him; and they said to him, ‘Your mother and your brothers and sisters* are outside, asking for you.’ 33 And he replied, ‘Who are my mother and my brothers?’ 34 And looking at those who sat around him, he said, ‘Here are my mother and my brothers! 35 Whoever does the will of God is my brother and sister and mother.’…SEE HE DIDN’T GO OUT RIGHT AWAY TO ..HAIL MARY…..THE SAVIOR was titled THESE because he is the UNBLEMISHED LAMB OF THE FATHER …who SUFFERED GREATLY FOR YOU AND ME…so we have to quit sluffing off the ONE who deserves our UTMOST ATTENTION and PAY TRIBUTE TO HIM AND HIM ALONE…..he is A VERY HOLY HOLY MASTER…and is JEALOUS of who takes his glory away from him ….he is not a teddy bear when it comes to this. ……my prayers are with you …. with the LOVE of the LAMB I love you and I urge you to please come out of her (BABYLON) ..it is only confusion ..now concerning the SEALED.. the organized churches you think is a church isn’t a church.. an adulterous one maybe …The MESSIAH said this, ‘Enter by the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction and there are many who go in by it, because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way that leads to life and there are few who find it.”…..this few is the bride either by obedience or refined by fire ….now concerning the ones refined by fire. daniel 12:10 .many shall be purified, made white and refined but the wickedly shall do wickedly and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand…..I LOVE YOU with the love of the LAMB…there is A SPIRITUAL BABYLON when the SPIRITUAL EYES ARE OPENED…denominations are apart of this ….quit dividing CHRIST …he is on his way back …get ready for the ride of our lives …but the sealed children are these..these are the ones who put their undivided devotion and trust in the HOLY ONE and he will seal these because they were obedient to his 10 commandments by resisting temptations and humbled when they fell and repented and they were merciful unto others … and the tribulation will not harm these nor the famine for as in the days of ELIJAH…the oil and flour did not run out ..and the ravens were commanded to feed him …WHY..because he put his undivided devotion and trust in the HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL….to all other churches who didn’t want to hear the doom and gloom and just believed in the messiah and did not resist temptations but said in their heart GOD WILL FORGIVE ME ANYWAY and the LAW IS NAILED TO THE CROSS …these are the ones who will go through the great tribulation ..to be refined by fire so they may be saved..but some shall be lost( weak ) but some shall be saved (MARTYRS)….yes we should always stay alert but we are never to quit our jobs . FIRST OBEDIENCE TO HIM.. then taking care of the orphans, widows, elderly and giving water to those who thirst and food to hunger, clothe the poor, heal the sick, visit the lonely and spread the gospel ( good news of JESUS FORGIVENESS AND HIS COMING KINGDOM) …love thy neighbor…it is by these we prepare for the WEDDING FEAST that will happen when the MESSIAH comes again… BUT this would be a lot easier if the HARLOTS and her MOTHER weren’t in the way i do caution you… if you know who the harlots and the mother of harlots is …and .we should not debate (argue) but we should look out for each other as family and looking out for the people who we need to bring to the BELOVED MESSIAH… but we need to steer them from the HARLOTS AND THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS….ONLY THEN WILL THE MESSIAH BE HEARD AND LISTENED TO….but yea pray for a pre trib..but scripture will be fulfilled and according to the scriptures i read ..the last trump with a voice of the archangel and jesus in the clouds and and in a twinkling of an eye immediatley after tribulation …they are all talking about the same event …do you honestly think he is coming for half the tree … and only some branches are gonna be raptured…we are ISRAEL like it or not …gentiles and jews alike no distinction….if you say you are not ISRAEL ..then you are saying you were not grafted into the OLIVE TREE ….and the OLIVE TREE SYMBOLIZES WHAT AGAIN….ISRAEL….with the LOVE of the LAMB I CHALLENGE YOU …to 100 percent devotion ….all that you do make him a part of it..even when you cross the street ..say.. should i cross here LORD or should i cross there ….i am ready to go in any kind of rapture …pre–mid—or post….i prepared for the post..by resisting temptations when they come(keeping his commandments) and humbling myself when I fall and I am merciful and show love to others ….i do this all because my master LOVES ME AND TOLD ME TO… IF I WANT TO ABIDE IN HIS LOVE….i am concerned for those who adamantly believe in a pre trib….because with the LOVE of the LAMB i do not want to see my brothers and sisters go through torment because they upped and believed something that was not scriptural ….our master suffered….we are not greater then our master ..BUT WE CAN BE JUST LIKE HIM ..amen…but we can be sealed his word says…If the prophecy about the 6000 years is true ..then that means those of us who are trying to get ready and prepare for His coming ..well we better get it right then and be PREPARED…because the day before the SABBATH is the preparation day …well then with all due respect …..we had a 1000 years to get prepared ….so we should be ready…for his coming…the year is 5771 in ISRAEL with 220 some years missing according to studies …..six days do all your work and on the seventh day rest (exodus 34:21)…n . AND according to 2 peter 3:8.. But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day…well if the year in Israel is 5771 with a RABBI saying 220 some years is miscalculated ..and then we say no wonder the signs of the TIMES ARE ALL AROUND US ….0-1000 is 1st day …1000-2000 is 2nd day …2000-3000 is 3rd day…3000-4000 is 4th day ..4000-5000 is the 5th day ..AND 5000-6000 IS 6th DAY(OUR TIME) ..and 6000-7000 is the millenial reign with the RISEN LORD..where and on the 7th day we REST…something is about to happen lets not miss the boat …..Yahushua said no one knows the day or the hour …….well we do know the mystery is going to be finished at the last trump…i have been doing a study on the feasts of the LORD in leviticus 23 and these are in order as it is written in leviticus …watch closely now…….passover/unleavened bread….wave offering/sheaf offering…..feast of weeks(also known as pentecost)…….harvest …..feast of trumpets ….day of atonement…..feast of tabernacles(sukkot which is a general thanksgiving of the bounty of harvest they received for that year)……now watch this again in order like the first time watch how they tell a story of jesus…….jesus death/resurrection…….appearance to show he is alive/ascension…….pentecost in acts…….harvest of the earth……trumpets blasts in revelations ………opening of the LAMBS BOOK OF LIFE and judgement of all.. and we who are written in the BOOK OF LIFE are ATONED (thus we are allowed to enter into the KINGDOM)…………and then the MARRIAGE SUPPER we are all waiting for to have with CHRIST when he comes for us (sukkot THE LORDS GENERAL THANKSGIVING OF THE BOUNTY OF HARVEST—me you and all those names written in the LAMBS BOOK of LIFE …we are his HARVEST ..amen)………and also there is feast still to this day in ISRAEL.. that from year to year no one knows the day or hour it starts until the night it happens …that is the feast of trumpets…they watch the sky for the new moon that happens in that month and when they see it the feast begins……now doesn’t that go right along with revelations 10:7 the sounding of the last trumpet when the mystery will be finished that paul talked about in 1 corinthians 15:51 and 52…….at the last trump in a twinkling of an eye..we will all be changed ….so all we have to find out now is when does the feast of trumpets USUALLY start…and don’t worry I will help you my fellows heirs of the kingdom…..it is in the month of tishrei which is equivalent from approximately the 10th of september to the 10th of october…….i am not date setting ..but the propheticness of the feasts are strikingly resembling Yahushua’ death and 2nd coming….the only question we have left to answer would be ….what year…and as far as the SABBATH goes i believe to treat all days to honoring him …but just like you and I have favorite things, I will treat every 7th day as the HOLY ONE’s favorite day(he blessed the 7th day and rested) ….therefore just like he gives me things that I favor, I will give him honor on his Favorite day ….scratch a puppy behind the ears see how much love you get in return …. never know maybe he’ll add an extra couple of years to my life and say it was because of lack of stress. besides if the sabbath is a shadow of things to come ..and we discussed what that means earlier every time we honor the sabbath we remember what is coming of the millennial reign which is our true perpetual sabbath …p.s ( I know about the marks in the codex vaticanus that says foolish and naive man leave the original writings) something for all you that read this to think about. ….i love thee all with the LOVE of the LAMB..search for him with a pure HEART …and you shall never be DECIEVED…shalom…tribulation is satans spewing and not YAH’ wrath…but the HOLY ONE WILL USE IT FOR HIS GLORY AND TURN IT INTO A REFINERS FIRE FOR HIS PEOPLE ….some will be lost (weak) and some shall be SAVED (martyrs)……MAY THE HOLY ONE GUIDE YOU ……BARUCH HASHEM ADONAI YAHUSHUA HAMASHIAC FOREVER AND EVER ….all knees are about to bow and mine is going to because I LOVE THE LAMB OF GOD….the HOLY ONE loves everyone and wants all to come to him, he doesn’t expect a baby in CHRIST to do the things an adult in CHRIST would do, the fact is you are still in CHRIST and the gift of eternal life is yourz. However, in CHRIST, there is a time to be a baby, a time to be a child , a time to be a teenager and a time to be an adult and a time to be full grown. Wherever you are in your walk with CHRIST… he will know……..PRAISE JESUS…AND MAY HE BLESS YOU ALL AND ISRAEL TOO..SO…immediately after the tribulation the rapture was preached since the beginning ..after the MESSIAH ascended.. ..pre trib views came out not too long ago in the 1800′s ….that fulfills.. 2 timothy 4:3-4 turning away from sound doctrine and because they have itching ears they heap up for themselves teachers and turn away from the truth and turn aside to fables …who ever came up with this teaching that tricked the little ones …it would have been better off if that person never been born ….don’t worry ..ADONAI knows who to punish more…and understands the little ones were tricked …turn back and come out of BABYLON (CONFUSION) and you shall be healed and thy iniquities remembered no more..REMEMBER 2TIMOTHY 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables… ..with the LOVE of the LAMB i LOVE YOU, for all those that READ this please RE-POST this to your wall..MORE PEOPLE NEEDS TO SEE THIS..THE HOLY ONE SAID HIS BANQUET HALL MUST BE FILLED.. ….P.S… the adoption of pagan holidays and traditions and mixing them with the HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL and his UNBLEMISHED LAMB and spreading lies in HIS NAME and forgetting about his FEAST DAYS and the adoption of the sunday sabbath and NOT honoring the FATHER’ sabbath day was the starting of BABYLON ( CONFUSION).(this was how the 10 lost tribes of ISRAEL became lost to begin with)…. SO REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF YAH IS NEAR